FoldingText 0.8
- Again, more tweaks to scrolling behavior.
- Added some padding to start and end of codeblocks.
- Make View > Bigger/Smaller use smaller change increments.
- Fixed bug where cursor wouldn't advance if you indented at start of line.
- Set LSFileQuarantineEnabled to false in plist, hoping to stop quarantining saved files.
You can download it from www.foldingtext.com, or direct download here.
2 Posted by peter on 15 Jul, 2012 08:02 AM
unable to do tables so far. would be quite useful.
Support Staff 3 Posted by Jesse Grosjean on 15 Jul, 2012 11:43 AM
Sorry, syntax highlighting support for multi markdown style tables isn't likely to be added. Though you can of course still enter the tables and generate the final HTML using an app like Marked. FoldingText shouldn't really get in your way in this respect, it just won't do syntax highlighting of the table elements.
4 Posted by peter on 15 Jul, 2012 11:51 AM
OK thanks - still impressive
5 Posted by Nicholas Lash on 15 Jul, 2012 09:19 PM
I'm missing CMD-Return to get to the next line.
It'd also be nice to have a Typewriter scrolling option like in WriteRoom. Not a fan of typing things at the bottom of the page, especially for long-form notes.
6 Posted by Nicholas Lash on 15 Jul, 2012 09:22 PM
FT is the only editor that handles indentation the correct way. Kudos.
Support Staff 7 Posted by Jesse Grosjean on 16 Jul, 2012 01:24 AM
Assuming you mean from TaskPaper? I’ll add that in the next release.
8 Posted by Thorsten Wiediger on 16 Jul, 2012 04:07 PM
I really like the way you're going with FT. Two things are still annoying:
- FT doesn't remember windows size and position
- line-spacing or line-height is too small for me
Are these easy to fix or adjust?
Looking forward to the 0.9 version. As I said, I really like this concept and would love to use it for brief notes, emails and longer texts.
Support Staff 9 Posted by Jesse Grosjean on 16 Jul, 2012 05:08 PM
FoldingText should be remembering window sizes and positions, but it works a little differently then WriteRoom. WriteRoom did it manually, FoldingText uses the OS X built in support (added in 10.7) for this sort of thing.
The difference is, that FoldingText will remember the sizes and positions of all documents that are left open when you quit the app. But it won’t remember that information for documents that are closed before you quite the app.
Line spacing, and lots of other visual stuff is “unofficially” configurable right now. You need to provide a custom CSS file as described here. Longer term (post 1.0 release) we’ll make this an official documented feature that won’t keep breaking on each new release.
10 Posted by matt.m.crider on 20 Jul, 2012 12:18 AM
Jesse,
Indentation alignment has the same problem as the problem I pointed out to you with TaskPaper way back in the day - which you corrected. The Dash in the sublevel should start at the first position of the superlevel for it look like it is aligned correctly.
Matt
Support Staff 11 Posted by Jesse Grosjean on 20 Jul, 2012 08:44 PM
I don’t think it should work like that in FoldingText. The issue is that in folding text we also have numbered lists. So imagine we have:
List one:
List two:
If I carefully lined up the unordered items so that the dash started at the parent, then the actual text items in both lists wouldn’t be aligned properly. Also, in general most list systems (i.e. what people are used to) that I’ve come across (html default, text edit) don’t align things the way that you expect either. Plus this implementation is simpler. I’m just going to leave as is I think.
12 Posted by matt.m.crider on 24 Jul, 2012 04:29 PM
Jesse,
Most software (any word processor, any outliner, any list program) with which I'm acquainted is EXACTLY like I stated. Is it the case that you do not have the ability to tab in your ASCII file? If you do have the ability, then what is the problem? The dashes and the numbers could be aligned with the associated text starting at the tab distance. And, the 'problem' you mentioned is resolved.
Matt
Support Staff 13 Posted by Jesse Grosjean on 24 Jul, 2012 05:16 PM
Maybe we are not on the same page. Can you send me a screenshot of what a lists looks like now, and then one of the same image, but changed to how you think it should look. Right now I’m just looking at what TextEdit lists look like, and (spacing is different) but generally to my eye they look exactly like FoldingText lists.
14 Posted by Jefferson on 24 Jul, 2012 06:21 PM
Also, I'd be interested in understanding what the overall indentation strategy is for FT.
It appears to me that:
Is that a correct summary?
If so, I'm curious as to the rationale for not having lists indent under a heading?
Btw: I'm attaching a screenshot of how indentation, headings, sub-headings, and bullets work in Word 2011 for Mac as a frame of reference.
15 Posted by Jefferson on 24 Jul, 2012 06:51 PM
err, correction. I see that asterisk bullets do indent, but that hyphens do not.
I think my task paper history was showing through in that last post. :-)
Support Staff 16 Posted by Jesse Grosjean on 25 Jul, 2012 02:55 PM
Ok, I think I finally see again the issue you guys are talking about. I think the key place where FoldingText layout is different then what you might expect is in the way that list and body text work together. Lets use this as an example:
If you put that in FoldingText the body text blocks are all left aligned. Which means that the list syntax overhangs into the right column. I agree this isn’t the most common way of doing lists, but it is pretty standard. For example it’s how numbered lists are presented in “The Elements of Typographic Style” and also in many less grand places.
The benefit of doing things this way is, subjectively, a cleaner look. It’s also a little better technically for numbered lists. If you have a numbered list that goes over 9 then (with fixed width font, and current tab size) the numbers start drifting into the left margin anyway.
Anyway I hope that explains the issue. It’s easy enough to change, but for now I just like the current look. When themes eventually become public it should be possible to choose either look by using a different theme.
Jesse